Deep in conversation with the star attraction of our new conscious music night, Future Sounds

Future Sounds is a new music monthly powered by Consciously Connected Travel and co-curated with artisanal collective Sons of Craft in partnership with Fitzrovia member’s club Mortimer House and Nataal magazine. With ‘soul-full’ music at its core, our aim is to bring good people together to appreciate the joys of unwinding and making new friends, checking the drama at the door.

Guests were welcomed to the first instalment of these intimate Friday evening sessions by a DJ set from Haruna whose afro house selections warmed us up for the main event, Brooklyn native Talia Goddess. The Guyanese-British artist merges her talents as a singer-songwriter, rapper, producer, multi-instrumentalist, DJ, model, entrepreneur and community leader to galvanise the next generation of creatives. The 20-year-old performed songs from her debut EP ‘Poster Girl’ that, she casually revealed, were written when she was as young as 12. Singles ‘Ragga’ and ‘Everybody Loves A Winner’, which also features on her amazing COLORS performance, stirred the crowd into a groove as head-bops cast a wave of positive vibrations across the floor.

The next day, I meet Talia (real name Tayahna Walcott) back at Mortimer House to reflect on her commanding performance that saw her own the stage with a conviction that belies her age. She is a true tour de force who brings with her an advocacy of discovering your voice by leaning into the uncomfortable parts of yourself. Let’s get into it…

 
 

What inspired your stage name?

Talia is my middle name and I’ve always liked it. I used it when I started to make my social media platform as a way to separate from my personal identity. So, it’s kind of like an undercover secret identity with Talia Goddess. Then when I started to gain more popularity I made the decision to embrace that as my public persona.

How do you feel you embody ‘Goddess’?

It allows for a sense of divinity to call into my existence when you speak on me. When you say the name Talia Goddess, you’re automatically prophesising a certain energy, an essence that feels protective, divine and spiritual. I chose the word Goddess to remind me of what it means to be aligned with yourself and operating from the point of authenticity and love and openness.

How do you bring that spirituality into your work?

My music is a really spiritual process. There are some songs that I feel were sent to me by God, like I’m the vessel between God, the higher power and the computer. It’s about being able to understand when things align, trusting the unknown and understanding my purpose here being bigger than anything I can comprehend. But also understanding God and spirituality to be the sum of everything that exists, which creates this oneness and unity allowing me to have this love and acceptance of the ecosystem. So that’s something that I use to operate in my daily life.

Your online bio is pretty powerful. It shared about your intention with wanting to be a champion of change. Why are you choosing to show up in the world in that way?

I've always been a leader and the one to take initiative. For example, when I was nine years old, I made an anti-bullying rap song. My goal was obviously to stop bullying but also to show individuality in the sense of being able to rap, enjoy performing and being myself as opposed to what other kids were doing. So, I think it's a radical effort just by constantly showing up as myself, inspiring other people to show up as themselves, and then we can begin to have more authentic relationships with each other. My sense of leadership and entrepreneurship goes hand in hand. It's just a matter of creating the reality I want to see in terms of how I want to engage with art and how I want other people to engage with my art. And art isn’t just music. It’s thinking about the visuals, graphics, movement, how it makes you feel. I can't help but be inquisitive about delving into all of it.

You write, produce and create the artwork. Why do it all?

There are three main reasons. One is financial, you have to compensate people and I did most of these songs in high school. Then often when I did sent things over to other people, I wasn't satisfied with what they did. I’m meticulous so no one else could really understand my vision. Then the third reason is growing up in a digital era, where you have your MacBook and all these tools at your fingertips gives you the capacity to create. It’s a matter of taking the time to learn and figure it out. Being a tech dork at heart, making music and making beats already, means graphic design kinda goes hand in hand. It allows me to think about finding my own visual identity.

 

“I chose the word Goddess to remind me of what it means to be aligned with yourself and operating from the point of authenticity and love and openness”


 

Which other mediums outside of music inspire your work?

I started off as a dancer so whenever I listen to music, I pay attention to how my body reacts to it and the physiological sensations that come across, whether it's the bangs of the drums, or the rhythm, or how the frequencies resonate with me. When I'm walking in the street, I’m aware of how my heart moves and how people talk and their body language. It’s both a mental and physical thing. So, when I’m making music I think about how I would move to it or how it stirs me.

As a child of Guyanese and British parents who was raised in Flatbush New York, how does that influence your art?

A lot of the first parties I was throwing were in the basement of my dad’s house in Brownsville, Brooklyn. He’s a construction worker and DJ. He just posted them on Facebook - no cover, no drugs, no alcohol - just being together and it doesn't matter who you are, it's about why you are there. So now when I throw parties and DJ, I go against the grain of optics of having clicks or having a scene. It’s more-so just people who are in search of an authentic experience through music discovery and having an open mind to whatever the night entails.

Music was playing all the time at home so I was understanding my Caribbean roots through dancehall and reggae and even lovers rock as a British Caribbean sound. I was then hearing afro house and dancing at the same time. Being a first-generation New Yorker, being at the intersection of two sonic palettes and cultural palettes, helps me to create a really cool melange that hopefully resonates with other people.

Your sound is not bogged down by one genre of music. Can you tell me about how you work with different sounds?

We have different moods and feelings so different genres encapsulate that, even when you think about subject matter and how you move. Rhythm and drums are intuitive to me, regardless of the cadence, so I combine different things to see what happens. Being a music producer allows me to have that creative freedom to try new sounds. I can make something and define it later.

But does it need to be defined?

Yeah, that’s the thing too because it’s hard to even have the language to describe music sometimes, which is kinda cool. You're tapping into a new world and letting it be what it is. It’s retracting from being put in a box, even though people try to do that anyway.

On social media, it’s easy to think someone just came up overnight. What has led you to this point?

Shit, so, many different things. I’ve been performing since I was six, which was 2008. We were still burning CDs and writing the track list and there wasn’t so much social media. I don't even know how I got gigs performing at non-profits, afterschool and for community events. New York is a tough crowd, like a really tough crowd. Growing up and starting my artistry in that era where there wasn't the clout, the optics or the numbers, it was simply, do you have talent or not? Can you move people or not? I'm fortunate to have had that experience, building a foundation to actually work on my craft, to be able to impact people. Then the evolution of social media was a big part of getting to this point career-wise in terms of visibility. Before, you needed a record deal to be heard. Whereas now, you can get your own fanbase while maintaining your intellectual property and your creative control. All that and also just learning and listening. Genuinely connecting with people and having an open mind has allowed opportunities to come to me. Just being real, having gratitude and never getting too comfortable with what you’ve done, are all part of success.

 
 

“My music is a really spiritual process. There are some songs that I feel were sent to me by God”


 

How do you shape activism into your work and your spirit?

For me it’s about being proactive and solution driven, but also understanding my own limitations and passion and being able to ignite change in a way that resonates with me. My activism translates into things like choosing to wear braids, being natural, not shaving my armpit and dressing masculine. All of those things with a conscious effort to create my own representation as opposed to fitting this caricature, which could be easier, more palatable. Also knowing that there's so many other people who look like me and who are being conditioned to see themselves otherwise as a black woman. Art is a form of activism because it comes from the heart and it moves people and it can be so universal. Even if it’s just an expression of yourself, being able to communicate things that someone else may not find the words for, that’s powerful for me.

With all the roles you play, how do you find balance?

My schedule is nonlinear. There are weeks of concentration on a goal or project and then once I finish that, maybe I'll go to Miami and just sunbathe. Getting some sun, getting some solitude, just chilling and experiencing life. Letting that further inspire and being a sponge to life and just having those flows. Having a team that can bounce ideas off of each also helps it feel like it's not all on me. I’m really happy about that because not only is it so nice to share our joys and wins but then we also go through shit together. Being able to bring an idea to fruition is a communal task, it's all of us.

You recently dropped the Poster Girl EP. Where were you emotively when you were creating that?

I was a hot mess! I was in high school and in hindsight it was a lot of fun. Even the dark parts. I was romanticising it because I was making fire music about it, which felt like something to pour emotion into. I mean I’m a big lover girl. I think the common theme of Poster Girl is love and loss, questioning my existence, transitioning from adolescence to adulthood. And then I finishing a lot of it in 2020 when Covid started. Also my sonic development, having mixed it and mastered it myself, I’m feeling like, okay, I’m ready to share this with the world. I'm really happy with a lot of those songs. It also captures an essence that can never be replicated again, which makes me excited about new music and capturing these moments of where I am in my life. Now it’s not too much love-centred, it’s exploring different struggles and responsibilities.

We’ve spoken before about how trauma shapes us. How does that influence your work?

From a generational level, thinking about black people and black families, there's so much healing that needs to happen. I focus on doing conscious work after having experienced things, having the hindsight to know that it hasn't broken me. Being bendable and being unbreakable and moving through life with more knowledge and wisdom. Experience teaches you like no other, it informs your decisions and how you move and how people operate. Trauma, just as a general term to describe suffering, is all part of the good and the bad and that balance between light and dark. And how necessary it is to appreciate the good and the joy and to really be fulfilled in that spectrum of existence. It’s necessary for people to grow and to reach a level of understanding if they do the work to heal.

As a Cancerian, your star sign is notorious for being emotional and sensitive. With that in mind, how do you, one, protect yourself emotionally and two, use it as a positive for your work?

Yeah, I think I'm pretty sensitive. I’m sensitive to energy and I'm good at reading people. The way it comes up the most is when you're having email conversations and learning how to formally say, ‘are you dumb?’ Communicating in a more diplomatic and bureaucratic way. That’s one approach but keeping it real as well. Sometimes people just have to hear the truth. So, being able to weed out the real from the fake is a superpower of mine. As is being able to see what people are longing for. When I’m DJing, I can read the room and use my emotional intelligence to decide how to give these people what they want even if they don't know it. Then in life, understanding where people are coming from during conversations or disagreements, being able to consider the whole picture.

 

“Being real, having gratitude and never getting too comfortable are all part of success”


 
 

Do you find that because you're so emotionally in tune it can be what is considered a hindrance? And if so, how do you navigate that?

I read the book The Four Agreements and what resonated the most was not to take things personally and realise that a lot of the time people are mirroring either how they feel about themselves or things that they've been told. When I interact with someone, I am aware that the language that they use is a reflection of their experience that I am not accountable for their emotions and actions. Before I was very much a people pleaser. But the Cancerian evolution is being maternal, loving and empathetic while still being able to have that grounding.

The song Everybody Loves a Winner is so potent and driven. How did it come about?

It was a pretty good experiment My hypothesis was one, do I have bars? And then two, can I encapsulate that New York hip hop sounds and energy? At the time I was listening to Fat Joe and Ol’ Dirty Bastard. I just love the grit and the articulate vulgarity of 90s hip hop. Then from there I started with the beat. It was a really fast thing too. I wanted to talk my shit because I'm really mild mannered, calm and collected so people don't know that there is a fire under here. Also, it's a short song because that's all I have to say. Yeah, it made a point. It's also targeted to masculine energy. A lot of my music is very feminine, very soothing, and I was like, I don't have something for the guys, for the masculine. Yeah, so, It's definitely that hardcore energy that I really enjoy.

You recently moved to London. Why did you make the jump, and how has travel innovated your art?

You know travelling feels like living in an alternate universe. So many people living a completely different life, a different metric, it is kind of crazy. It gives more perspective of how big the world is and how small I am, which is liberating. In New York, I come from a family of immigrants so I’m not unfamiliar with the idea of leaving somewhere to have a better life. But I felt quite simply that I needed to spread my wings. The times that I've come to London have been so inspiring, really dope. Most importantly, the music scene. London has a big Caribbean and African population that isn't too prominent in New York or America in general. So, I find it a lot easier to connect and relate to people and see a greater perspective of the diaspora. Although New York is a melting pot, it is like a bubble, especially when there's a lot of people who come with a preconceived notion of what it is. So, traveling is necessary. I am just here, creating music, being a sponge, being a nobody all over again and making lovely beginnings.

How do you define success?

I define success as being fulfilled. I don’t know if this is controversial, but I often refer to Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs. Like having physiological needs such as shelter, food, security, good health, financial stability, friendship, love, creativity, self-actualisation. That to me is the human experience we are striving towards. I want to get to the point where I can bear the fruit of what life is at its most potent form. I feel pretty successful right now, you know, sometimes it fluctuates. But being able to know when you have enough and not having this endless need of wanting more and more and more. I mean even living here in London, I don’t have much, I have a cool setup in my room, that’s enough.

You're working on a new project, how much can you tell us?

I can tell you that it’s better than the last one. I think my production has grown so much. It’s most evident in the range of music in terms of touching on new genres. I’m looking to give the music time to marinate and figure itself out, as that’s been my process. Most importantly, I want to share my roots and things that I think about. Thematically I’m exploring my identity and owning who I am whether it's sonically, lyrically or visually. And I will be exploring choreography and dance, which goes back to my origin as a child dancer.

And going forward, is there a big picture?

This year is definitely a year of new music and new releases and just having a bigger capacity to have more reach and visibility and production. So, scaling what I've been doing and I am also developing my label Trace Records more. Working with artists, really investing in them. They are so talented and so special and I am so fortunate to have friends that I can collaborate with. Building my tribe, building my business, getting the foundation right.

Do you have any parting words of encouragement for your fans?

Don't be afraid to live your truth.

Listen to our Future Sounds with Talia Goddess Spotify playlist here
Listen to the podcast of this interview here
The next Future Sounds is Friday 10 February at Mortimer House featuring Xadi. Book here


Words Ingrid Asoni
Art direction Kouadio Amany for Sons of Craft
Photography Henry Diagne
Styling Haruna Jebak
Hair Roman Sam
Make-up Weini Haile
Photography assistance Laurent Ademi
Styling assistance and set design Dizzy Bagley
Location Mortimer House
Party reporting Blessing Borode

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Published on 02/02/2023